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short-term debt hike that stood no chance of ending the crisis. today the house is due to vote on a debt hike that stands less of ending the crisis. default, we're told, the inability for the government to cover the bills could be four days away. house speaker boehner still trying to sell his fellow republicans on a plan to hike the debt limit by $2.5 trillion in two installments this year and next, and will cut spending by $917 billion over ten years. majority leader reid says he will try to pass his own plan to cut spending while raising the debt ceiling all at once. and president obama says the power to solve this is in our
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hands. >> keep in mind, this is not a situation where the two parties are miles apart. we're in rough agreement about how much spending can be cut responsibly as a first step towards reducing our deficit. we agree on a process where the next step is a debate in the coming months on tax reform and entitlement reform, and i am willing and ready to have that debate. if we need to put in place an enforcement mechanism to hold us accountable for making the reforms, i will support that too if it's done in a smart and balanced way. so there are plenty of ways out of this mess. but we are almost out of time. >> i want to bring in cnn's joe johns to tell us where things stand at this moment. how is speaker boehner trying to reach his magic number of 217? >> randy, when i was listening to you at the top sounded like you were describing theater of the absurd.
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house republicans are inches closer to fixing their problem in the house of representatives. i think we have pictures now of the house rules committee. i want to show you that they are meeting i am told. whenever the house rules committee meets what they are trying to do essentially is pay for the revised bill to make its way to the house of representatives. that's congressman david drier there. now the republicans are looking to try and change their latest proposal and get the approval of the rules committee by essentially adding on a balanced budget provision and a requirement that both houses of congress pass the balance budget amendment before they will allow what is called this two-step process of raising the debt limit. now, democrats have said again
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and again they don't want a two-step process, and what is fascinating here is that the republicans change of their proposal would require the passage of the amendment. harry reid heard about it and went to the cameras, and check out his reaction. >> i am not standing in line to see how many times can you amend a constitution, but if people want to vote on that, fine. as senator schumer pointed out, to show the extremism of these people, the extremism of these people, they are not satisfied with the vote on it, and they want a guarantee that it is passed before they will allow an extension of the debt limit. how bizarre can anybody be? well, bizarre or not, the fact of the matter is that john boehner, the speaker of the house, is doing everything he
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can to pass something out of there, and in order to do that you have to make deals. 10 or 15 years ago they would have thrown money at the problem, billions of dollars to get votes. now they are not throwing money at the problem, but they still have to give people something in order to get their votes, and this is what they are trying to do. >> seems like there's a lot of conversations going on, but is there any real negotiation going on? >> basically what the people at the senate are doing is waiting for the house to figure out whether or not they are sending a bill over or not. senator reid did say he wanted to sit down with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell in the senate and talk about a bill that would pass, and that's key. if mitch mcconnell had good ideas, i mean, he at least knows what the tea party republicans over in the house are thinking. if he has good ideas, he might be able to figure out something to thread the needle, you know.
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one of the scenarios, there are two dozen or so hard nosed over in the house and they may have to go around them but who knows if that is possible. >> who knows? we will keep watching it along with you. thank you very much. you heard the scenarios for post august 2nd, depending on the politics, some people believe it could lead to disaster business as usual. i want to show you some highlights. maybe we should call them the lowlights. we put key dates together. on august 3rd, the treasury is due to bring in $12 billion in tax revenues and face $32 billion in payments, and i am talking social security and defense and jobless benefits and a whole lot more, and assuming no borrowed money to make ends meet, the gap for that one day
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will be $12 billion, and not pretty. combined deficit now, $26 billion, and then fast-forwarding, we will have taken in $172 billion against $306 billion in obligations. we will be $134 billion short. nobody knows who the treasury will pay and who will have to wait. strange behavior when the muslim army soldier arrested with bomb-making material appeared in federal court today. she was charged with possession of an illegal firearm, and the police say he told them he wanted to kill soldiers at the military post. he refused to stand up when the judge entered the courtroom, and
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he was yanked up by marshals. on exiting the courtroom he gave a shotout to a soldier that killed many at ft. hood. and then texas farmers are suffering the third worst drought in recorded history. norway paused today for a somber memorial service of the victims of the twin terror attacks. ♪ norwegian leaders joined relatives for a service in oslo by the youth wing of the labor party, the target of last week's shooting spree. he called them heroes, and said
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norway's response would have more democracy. the police plan to question breivik today for the second time since his arrest. the libyan woman that claimed she was gang raped by forces loyal to moammar gadhafi arrived here in the u.s. she flew into new york two nights ago and got a flight to denver where she plans to stay at least for the time being. she gained international attention and concern in march when she rushed into a hotel and described in detail her rape to the media. before coming here, she spent 54 days at a u.n. refugee center in romania. fixing the debt ceiling crisis. could it be as simple as balancing a city budget? one mayor on a mission to help congress and the president get it done. we'll talk to him next. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day
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the pressure to solve the debt ceiling issue is being felt in washington, of course, but officials across the country are anxious for congress and the white house to get this deal done. one mayor went as far to write president obama and the members of congress a letter this week offering ground level insight into the crisis. the letter says i write to offer some outside the beltway perspective and to strongly affirm the need for an immediate bipartisan practical solution that balance yunss federal reduced spending with a comparative mild increase in rev news. the author of the letter joins me now. phoenix mayor, phil gordon. thank you for coming on the show. why did you decide to send the president and congressional leaders this letter. did you think it would help
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them? >> i am hoping it will help. i want to point out respectfully the crisis is already here. we have had contracts now that have been affected particularly at the airport, where people are not able to go to work, which means people are out of work. phoenix has bit hit as hard or harder than any other city in the united states. while the numbers are less, it's the same if not worse. we had a 25% budget reduction over the last two years, and laid off over 2,000 employees, and yet still have a aaa bond rating, the highest in the country of any major city. we have the lowest crime rate in 40 years, and we're investing in the future. we did not do it with the bickering and fighting going on. it can't be done in the press. it has to be done quickly.
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>> what do you think you did right that you could pass on to washington and let them know how to get it done? >> well, again, i offer it respectfully, but it is affecting our city. number one, we brought all the parties together that were the people that were really involved in the negotiations, and didn't leave the room. literally we didn't leave the room. and we didn't debate it in the press, which i know that's important, but it's -- i think it's more important to work out something, and let the tempers be left at the door, and we stayed in the room and we made the hard choices, and some of us took the political risks for the good of the future, and i think that that's what it has been about, statesmanship, and the public has supported us, 90% of the city is supporting what we took, which was a small increase in food taxes, but at the same time a major decrease in services and personnel. >> what is the most important tip you can offer congress and
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the president today? >> to, i guess, continue to sit down but not leave the room. put a handshake on and say we're going to do this for the country now. we have got to. the crisis -- i think acknowledge the crisis is already there. people are out of work right now because of this debate. and if the goal is to put people to work, both sides claim victory, and let's go forward, and have a balanced budget, and then, you know what? the electors in november can decide on a referendum. >> do you think we will have an agreement before august 2nd? what is your gut? >> i do. the pressure now with mayors like myself and real working people speaking up, people being put out of work, not that they are out of work trying to get a job, but now people losing their jobs, this pressure has got to be building on these individuals. with respect to those that have taken a pledge not to do this or
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to only do this, you know, that's really -- that's what is causing the problem is if we are not flexible, if we cannot add yus and if we think one size fits all, we will end up in default, and look like countries like greece. this is the united states. this is the world leader. we look like children now fighting, our partisanship. the public is now distinguishing between political parties, and they are saying same on all of you and get the balanced budget and go forward. that's why we elected you. >> mayor gordon of phoenix, and thank you for your time and advice as well. appreciate it. air france flight 447, a flight that fell out of the sky and killed many, a final report about how it happened and the solution next.
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almost two years after air france flight 447 tragically plunged into the ocean killing all aboard, investigators released their final report on what they believed caused the trash until recently details of the flight remained a mystery. richard, i know you have been following this. now with the final report, what did investigators conclude? >> well, it's basically the findings as a result of the cox pit voice and flight data. we know what took place. this is a crucial bit. we know that probably the tubes
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at the front of the plane, the speed sensors clocked up with ice. that is, if you like mechanical part of what took place. this crash is really all about what happened in the cockpit, how the pilot dealt with that incident. the relationship between the two copilots where one was the relief captain. the captain was on his rest break, what they did over a period of less than ten minutes that finally doomed the plane. i think, randi, what you are seeing here, and i don't think, but i am certificaain here is a aircraft that was perfectly flyable, and had a serious but not catastrophic malfunction, and it's the way the pilots handled it. i am avoiding the phrase pilot error, and i would go with the
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phrase with what aviation experts are telling me, it was pilot skills, the skilling of the pilot that comes into question here. >> do we know what they might have done wrong? what have we learned from this, if anything? >> the recommendations that we have got are pilots are trained to fly the plane, and when they are cruising across the atlantic, and everything is being monitored. but what the pilots are not trained to do is fly the plane at those sort of altitudes. they may have been trained to do it once, but it's not part of their regular training to go what is known as -- to go alterna alternate, end the cruise and have to fly the plane. what i think -- this particular incident, and the incident in
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texas, what they are doing is raising the issue about pilot skills, and whether more training needs to be given and reminding pilots to fly the plane first. >> such a horrible, horrible crash there. thank you for the new details. appreciate it. he fired his attorneys again, but now warren jeffs is keeping quiet about his defense, and i mean that literally. we take you to texas for his bizarre developments in his sexual assault trial. she's amazing, i love her. [ jade ] i'm teaching jasmine ap biology. i knew she had the talent... i always pushed her. [ jasmine ] her class you literally have to think, like it takes so long to do her homework. [ jade ] she's gained the confidence that she can achieve anything. [ jasmine ] i'm going to be a pediatrician... and i'm going to make this dream come true. a 100 percent. ♪
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key piece of evidence prosecutors layed out for jurors, and it should prove he raped two underaged girls. the trial is taking an unusual, albeit silent turn, and jeffs is practically giving the court the silent treatment. the trial went on without jeffs saying much of anything, and never mind making opening arguments or issuing please or saying anything. gary, this sounds like a wild ride. i know you were inside the courtroom watching this all play out. warren jeffs stayed silent mostly clout the trial until now. what happened in court today? >> reporter: randy, he was the most silent attorney i have seen in my career covering trials, and he didn't look at the jury or judge or take notes. just about an hour ago, a
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dramatic and crazy and wild and nutty turn. there was evidence being presented of dock mauments show the names of the 75 different women, and he stood up and said he objected. and the jury acted shocked and surprised. the judge said on what grounds? he said religious grounds. and then he talked for 60 minutes, not just about why he objected to the evidence, but gave a talk about mormonism and polygamy, and he said we believe in -- this is a quote, heavenly authorized not to be interfered with by government powers, and the irony is, if he is guilty of what he is charged of, he is what has helped make this a wicked word. the judge suspended the morning
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proceedings because he kept interrupting the prosecutor afterwards, so lord knows what will happen. >> this sounds like a waste of time. does jeffs even plan to cross examine witnesses? what do you think? >> reporter: he has not cross examined anybody yet, and there has been nine witnesses. he says he gets revelation from god. and he told the jury that he was a fraprophet. we don't know what is going to happen. he is still representing himself in this trial and he could go to prison if found guilty for the rest of his life.
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that's the interesting thing. before he went on the die atribe, the prosecutor said they think it will go until tuesday, and you don't know, if he talks for an hour and talks slowly and for a long time, the trial could take until the year 2040. there is no way to predict anything at this time. >> gary, thank you very much. she stormed a hotel risking everything, just to tell her story of alleged gang rape. up next, we will tell you where this libyan woman is living now and how she got there. to power our lives.d while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe
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strange behavior when the muslim army soldier arrested with bomb-making material appeared in several court today. he was charged with one count of possession of a destructive device. he was taken into custody yesterday near ft. hood, texas. the police say he told them he wanted to killed soldiers at the military post and he refused to stand up when the judge entered the court, and he was yanked up by marshals. the woman who caught the world's attention when she publicly accused members of gadhafi forces of gang raping her is now in the united states. she arrived in new york wednesday before boarding a flight to denver, colorado.
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they call them narco movies, and for some it's just a little too realistic. rafael romo takes a closer look. >> reporter: they had become accustomed to hitmen and drug lords paraded in front of the camera for all the world to see. it's the on going conflict between cartels and the mexican government has left has many as
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40,000 dead in the last four years. this shocking reality has made it's way on the big screen with a new genre called narco movies. in this movie called "high-powered people," a drug lord and an associate discuss alliances. the violence in their movies pales in comparison to reality. >> translator: we're not even close to reflecting reality. can you call our movies soft because we don't show as much blood and killings. we just try to give people what they want. >> reporter: the english translation of the movie titles are very revealing. the bough so the film makers say they make sure the screen plays don't rub any of the cartels the wrong
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way, and it's a kinds of self censorship that keeps them safe. >> translator: we deal with these issues in the best way possible. we're not afraid they will come after us because we behave. we do things the best we can and so far we have not been threatened by anybody. >> rafael romo joins me now. is anybody concerned about the glorification of what the cartels are all about? >> there is great concern. the movies are not yet mainstream in mexico, only in about four states where most of the violence is concentrated. and number two, there's a governor in one state that already banned folk songs that go glorified drug movies next. there is a possibility the drug
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lords themselves are behind the movies. we have no idea whether any of the movies we had in our report had anything to do with this, but there is at least one drug lord who under interrogation admitted that he paid $200,000 to have a movie about his life made. >> it takes me back to the 1980s, "scar face," and i am sure you remember that. how real do you think they are? >> they say it's based on reality, but they pale in comparison to what mexico is going through right now. as you saw, the quality and the production quality of the movie is not the greatest, and the screen plays, they are the same and follow the same formula, but they are there because that's part of the reality that mexico is living. >> we talked to you last week about the 14-year-old boy who was convicted for working as a killer for the cartels, and you think about how you put these guys on the big screen and kids are going to think they are here
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yoes, and then what? >> a story that keeps telling. it's getting very shocking. >> thank you very much. hugs, tears, music. the people of norway pause to remember the victims of the twin tower attack. and then police int intear e
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it has been one week since the bombing and shooting rampage in norway. the nation came together as one today to remember the 76 victims. the first funerals were also held. emotions of deep sorrow were combined with words of hope and determination. the victims were called heroes and said the country's response would come with more democracy. breivik admitted to carrying out the bombings and shootings that killed 76 people, many teenager and young adults. police are questioning breivik today for a second time since his arrest. and the man accused of killings last friday, he quotes a man described as a former terrorists that now spends his life warning about the dangers of islam. we talked about part one of your
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series, and you found out shoobat's theory did not wind up. >> he said he is a former terrorists and a former member of the plo, and all the names he gave us, we could find no evidence that any of that is true, and yet this man really has been making a tidy sum of money preaching and teaching of what many say is a hate speech against islam. turns out, randi, his finances are as vague as his background. >> we'll take a look. >> reporter: it's clear shoobst doesn't like questions. >> a stupid question. >> he did not like the questions about his tax exempt status. he is training on his past to
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advise law enforcement officials. it's a life story based on very little evidence. but it sure pays well. tax records filed by his business partner reveal his speaking engagements earned more than $560,000 in 2009. >> so why the skepticism if somebody gives the money and it goes into my pocket? that's untrue. >> reporter: his various businesses and foundations, well, that's vague, too. how much do you get paid for these speaking engagements? >> not that much. if you look at my salary, i make what a gas station makes or garage makes. everybody thinks i am raking in the dough, which is incorrect.
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>> the foundation, is that a charity? >> it's fmmu. what does that do? >> we do speaking and also helping christians that are being persecuted in places like pakistan, and we help christians who are suffering throughout the middle east. >> how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business that donates to you? >> of course. but, you see, a lot of the times, if you disclose information of who you are helping, it ends up biting them. >> reporter: he leads us to his manager who was down the hall selling the anti-islam books. when cnn had questions about the high ranks on the board of
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advisers, he said to get the number from davies. >> can you tell us who they are? >> off the top of my head, yes. let me see. i am trying to think. the names have gone blank. they will come back to me in a second. major general -- ah, i can't -- the four-star -- there was a three-star general at the air force, irish name, thomas -- i usually know these by hearts. >> reporter: davies did come up with one name, a pilot but no contact details despite repeated requests from cnn. we made calls to the individual anyway, but he never called us back. the group's public tax forms lists only davies and a real estate developer as board members, both with the same address.
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they run several foundations and three web sites that are all linked. a confusing model considering the group's tax returns for the last four years contained very little information. while shoobat has a foundation bearing his name, there is little on the tax returns. >> you have the foundations, and i am trying to find out where this money goes in terms of charity? >> most of the money is to help persecuting christians in the middle east. we have a website that can you have all the information about what we do on the website. it's rescuechristians.org. >> i read that, and it's not exact as to where the money is going. >> i do a lot of this type on reporting on charities that
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collect money for various funds. everything is not very transparent. are you running a scam here? >> absolutely. a big scam. i am not answering that. you are trying to scam us all the time. we are a very legitimate organization, and we have been around for eight years, and can you have a look at the forms from the irs and i can send you copies of the tax returns if you want. >> he never did. the money is coming from your tax dollars and churches and universities. the dhs in south dakota said he was paid $5,000 plus expenses to speak at this event, and he was given security. but shoobat told us -- >> i paid today myself. >> the bigger question is maybe
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why he is in south dakota teaching cops about islamic terrorists, a state that has so few muslims. a local newspaper here in rapid city says only a couple dozen live here year round. jim carpenter is south dakota's homeland security director. what was the point of bringing him here? >> i think he brings a point of you that is certainly not mainstream, a south dakota base point of you. he brings in commentary about living and being raised as a muslim and converting over to christianity. >> wow, all the background he shares with the people isn't true, and you would think the department of homeland security would check him out? >> we did contact dhs, and they said it was up to the states to vet these guys. but they did say if training
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programs do not meet standards corrective action will be taken, and one of the standards they will not tolerate or rely on racial profiling. that's exactly what he is teaching the cops in south dakota. i sat through three sessions and there's no doubt about it. >> he is still out there? >> we have not seen him do many speaking engagements listed since this report, but he is on very conservative radio out let's, basically attacking cnn. >> leave it to you, drew, to cramp his business just a little bit. just in to the "cnn newsroom" now, our congressional correspondent, kate bolduan, has learned there could be a vote tonight. the source does cnn that time could slip, but right now a word of a vote on the boehner bill could come between 7:00 and 8:00 tonight. we will continue to follow that
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for you. you know the tough talk from members of congress, the ones who say they are not budging in the fight against raising the debt ceiling? we looked like some of those hard liners have debt of their own. we checked the record. it's time. and more pills. afternoon art starts and so does her knee pain, that's two more pills. almost done, but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve because it can relieve pain all day with just two pills. this is lisa... who switched to aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels.
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some hard-charging members of congress have changed the debate in washington over the size of the federal government and how much it should be spending, but records show some of the hard liners have debt problems of their own. here's cnn's brian todd. >> they are the fire brand class, deficit hawks in congress taking a hard line on the debt ceiling talks. some are tea party favorites who rail at congress for past spending, like republican
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senator mike lee of utah. >> congress for decades has been burying our children. >> senator lee's racked up significant personal debt of his own, $65,000 from a credit card and line of credit. the forms, released last month, show there are a few republicans wanting a hard line of the country's debt. tax payers for common sense. >> i think this raises questions about are you walking the walk while you're talking the talk. >> senator lee's argument, you have to put this in context. he couldn't do an interview on this, but the aide pushed back hard saying the scrutiny is crack pot, the senator has his finances in order, is managing his debts responsibly. tea party supported republican congressman joe walsh, has played a prominent role in that
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debate. >> thank god congressmen like me are here. imagine if republicans hadn't taken over congress. >> walsh's ex-wife says he needs to pay up on a big debt, more than $117,000 in child support. we couldn't reach walsh's attorney for comment. walsh says the attacks against him in this case are false but also says this. >> i'm the most openly-vetted candidate in the world. i have had financial troubles, and i've talked about this throughout the campaign. this is where real america is. >> what's wrong with him incurring debt that millions of others do? >> they are allowed to incur debt just like millions of americans do, but we're also allowed to push back and ask questions, if you choose to incur personal debt, if that's how you choose to manage your finances, how can you tell the country we can't manage our own debt? >> the documents say two
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republican congressmen, and kevin yoder of kansas, each had credit card debt of at least $15,000 as of late last year. we contacted the offices of both congressmen. they didn't respond. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> the debt ceiling debate is dragging down the public's opinion of leadership in washington. paul steinhouser breaks down new cnn polling after this break. thanks. [ professor ] good morning students. today, we're gonna...
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the debt ceiling debate keeps dragging on, and the public is starting to get fed up with washington leadership. well, cnn deputy political director, paul steinhauser joining me from washington. happy friday. what's it costing politicians in terms of the poll numbers? >> definitely not helping them, no doubt about that. americans getting frustrated. check this out, here's an example. new poll from gallop, only 4 in 10 approve how president obama is handling the debt ceiling crisis. look at that, numbers keep going down and down. three in ten give a thumb's up to house speaker john boehner, and only two in ten approve of how harry reid is handling. americans want this deal to get done, and it hasn't happened so far. they are frustrated and taking it out on the politicians, randy. >> the politicians are using the
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debate as a political weapon in their ads. what can you tell us about that? >> oh, yeah, coming soon or at a television near you, ads on national cable, ads on local tv stations across the country. today a group came out with ads that go out against republican lawmakers over the debt crisis, and i learned a couple of minutes ago a conservative group is releasing ads attacking the president. you can't escape it. these ads are everywhere and are going to continue over the next couple of days. these groups with putting ads up across the country on cable and broadcast. randi? >> paul, thank you, your next update from the best political team on television is just an hour away. a new hour brings a new push to end a stand off that is getting very, very old. the house of representatives is reconvening as we speak to reconsider a debt plan it was
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planning on voting on yesterday. today, of course, we are one day closer to d-day, default. the government's ability to handle obligations could be less than four days away if the president signs an increase in the treasury's authority to take on debt by selling bonds. house speaker, john boehner still trying to sell his fellow republicans to hike the debt limit by $2.5 trillion. he'd also cut spending over ten years. senate majority leader reid says there's no time to wait for the house or he'll try to pass his own plan to cut spending by at least $2.2 trillion by raising the debt limit by $2.7 trillion all at once. for his part, president obama says, and i'm quoting here, "the power to solve this is in our hands." >> keep in mind, this is not a situation where the two parties are miles apart. we're in rough agreement about how much spending can be cut
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responsibly as a first step toward reducing our deficit. we agree on a process where the next step is a debate in the coming months on tax reform and entitlement reform, and i'm ready and willing to have that debate, and if we need to put in place some kind of enforcement mechanism to hold us all accountable for making these reforms, i'll support that too if it's done in a smart and balanced way, so there are plenty of ways out of this mess. but we are almost out of time. >> i want to bring in cnn's kate baldwin to tell us where things stand exactly. kate, we understand the house might be voting this evening? >> that's right, you hear these buzzes, that means the house is reconvening, actually perfect timing that they will be moving forward now with debate and some of the procedures they have to towards a vote. the guidance i've been given from a republican source is that the vote on the final passage of this bill worked out between house speaker john boehner and
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his party could be between 7:00 and 8:00 this evening, but a big caution, this can and often does slip. they can give back time and use more time if they need to, but that's the guidance that we're getting is the vote will likely be -- very likely be at some point this evening. >> well, it seems like speaker boehner could be running out of time here, though, given that time frame, so what is he doing to win over the members of his own caucus before this vote? >> leaders are not yet predicting they have the votes they need. i'll tell you, definitely seemed to be a breakthrough this morning, when they left a closed-door meeting, members basically said they think they are there. and i can assure you, at this point, i highly doubt the house speaker and republican leaders will move this bill to the floor if they don't have the votes. they do not want a repeat of what happened yesterday, and how they were able to ge more yeses, what we're hearing is what they've done is tweaked the
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bill. very briefly, they've tweaked the bill so that the second debt ceiling hike that would happen next year would be contingent between congressional passage, congress passing a budget amendment to the constitution. the original bill said there had to be a vote on it, so this is a tall order for that to pass. i can tell you, even if this passes this evening, it needs to go to the senate. a short time ago, senate majority leader harry reid made it clear it's a no-go. listen here to him. >> i'm not standing in line to see how many times they can amend a constitution, but, you know, if people want to vote on that, fine, but as senator schumer pointed out, to show the extremism of these people, the extremism of these people, they are not satisfied with a vote on it. they want a guarantee that it pass, it pass before they'll allow an extension of the debt limit. i mean how bizarre can anyone be? >> now, for the part of the
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senate, we've been told by many people that senate majority leader harry reid and senate leaders, democratic leaders, they want some kind of compromise. they will be moving forward this evening be it with reid's bill or a modification of reid's bill, but they are getting the ball rolling in the senate tonight. >> and, kate, i also understand, i watched senator reid speak and he also said the house, he thought, is trying to ram this through. are there actual negotiations still taking place? >> i know that they are definitely open to negotiations but as we've been seeing unfold, it seems still today that the house and senate are going along their own paths. the house, clearly, they are going to move forward on their path. they want -- republicans want to have the boehner bill pass, approved, agreed to, put to the senate. they want to have their voice and their mark. senator reid has made a plea today he's ready to compromise, but seems what the house is sending, he's not accepting, so
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he's going to be working forward to push his bill through. we'll have to see what kind of modifications or tweaks will be happening today into this evening, but he's moving forward his bill which could lead to early morning votes. >> no timetable on the vote for the reid bill? >> it can always slip, but if they file -- i'm not going to get in the technical language. but if they get the ball moving today, the first test vote could be at 1:00 a.m. sunday morning, saturday night into sunday because of the rules how many hours would have to pass. that could be the first test vote, from there, early votes as well. >> all right, you're not going to be able to get much sleep this weekend, kate baldwin, we prees appreciate your reporting. almost everybody benefits from government spending in various ways. that's why it's easier to talk about cuts than make them. we did some checking, and we
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found that these five states, the most -- they accept the most federal spending per person. alaska tops the risk, in 2009, alaska took in $20,351 per person from the u.s. treasury. virginia, not far behind, $19,733. take a look at hawaii here, took in $19,000 federal dollars per person. maryland took in $15,639. now, obviously, all of those states and all the others send money to the treasury as well, so here's another way to look at it. these states you see in green, okay? take a look. they all got more money back from washington than they paid in federal taxes on average between 2007 and 2009, mississippi got $2.83 for every dollar it paid in. mississippi paying taxes really pays off. west virginia got $2.82.
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new mexico, $2 to.80. and alaska got $2.24. then states, illinois got 79 cents back, connecticut got 74 cents. new jersey, 62, minnesota, 54, and poor delaware got 40 cents back on the dollar. we're also keeping an eye on tropical storm don. you can see don churning across the gulf of mexico. the storm is less than 300 miles southeast of corpus christie texas and is expected it to make landfall late tonight, early tomorrow morning. the rain is expected to bring relief to texas, suffering the third worst drought in recorded history. recorders inside air france 447 were recovered in may and raising troubling concerns about the pilot's training.
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all passengers and crew were killed on board. investigators say the air france pilots responded incorrectly after the plane stalled. france's bureau of investigation and analysis say the pilots failed to talk about stall warnings and received no high altitude training to deal with the situation. air france defended the pilots saying there's no reason to question the pilot's skills. the libyan woman who told forces moammar gadhafi's forces gang raped her is in the u.s. after spending two months in romania, she arrived in wednesday night, then flew to colorado where she'll live. al-obeidy is happy and thanking hillary clinton. exactly a week after the attacks, the death toll in norway has gone up to 77 people. police there released a new list of victims today.
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this comes after the country paid tribute to those who died. >> translator: we recall in silence those who lost their lives. >> the labor parties youth movement organized a memorial service in oslo as the first funerals for victims took place today. those were targeted during a summer came on utoya island. breivik is being interrogated for a second time today. the awol soldier gives a shout out for the man responsible for the 2009 shooting spree. we take you live to texas to the latest on his federal court hearing. [ slap! ] [ pneumatic wrench buzzing ] [ slap! slap! slap! ]
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could have played out like the deadly 2009 shooting. instead, the awol army private was charged in federal court this afternoon, but not before causing quite a seen. naser jason abdo is now charged with illegal firearm possession. police in texas arrested the 21 year old on wednesday after a gun store employee tipped police off. fbi investigators searched his hotel and found enough materials to make two bombs. abdo bought six pounds of gun powder, shotgun shells, and a magazine for a semi-automatic pistol. the owner of the gun store, who we spoke to yesterday on this show, saw the flags. >> look, i'm a retired police
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officer. i spent close to 40 years of my life observing people in a variety of different capacities. what do you think i'm going to do? if you come in here and do something that's kind of out of the ordinary, i'm going to key on that, and that's pretty much what i did with this kid. >> i want to take you to waco, texas, where abdo was charged. joining us from there, ed, what is this about abdo in court? he didn't exactly leave the courtroom quietly. take us back to what happened. >> no, you know, it was supposed to be just a simple initial appearance. the charges read against him, but it turned out to be a lot more bizarre than that. abdo was escorted into the federal courtroom here behind me in large law enforcement presence inside there, nine marshals inside that courtroom, he was brought in in a full,
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all-white jump suit. she was shackled around the waist and arms and his feet were shackled as well of the he sat down, started reading paperwork. when the judge walked in, everyone was supposed to stand up. abdo refused to stand up. two u.s. marshals told him stand up, stand up. at that point, the marshals yanked him up by the arms. the judge read the charges he was in possession of a destructive weapon and he was told he'd be held without bond. and then after that hearing was coming to an end, the u.s. marshals started escorting him out of the courtroom and abdo started speaking out clearly, he knew there was a courtroom full of reporters sitting back there, and he started talking to them, made reference to a 14-year-old iraqi girl who was gang raped and murdered, her family murdered as well by u.s. soldier ins 2006, also made reference to nadal hassan, the man expected
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of the massacre in 2009 fort hood army post when he killed 13 soldiers back in 2009. clearly a way of abdo kind of showing sympathy to those two people. it was definitely a bizarre moment. >> how sophisticated do you think or do prosecutors might think he was in terms of pulling this off? i understand in his back pack there were some literature about how to make a bomb? >> right, you know, the -- exactly the timing of it, we still haven't seen anything just exactly how close he was, although authorities yesterday in killeen said look, he had the parts he had not been tipped off by police by that gun shop employee, perhaps, they said, they would have been holding a different press conference yesterday. but he did have these pressure cookers, the gun powder, various other components, and according
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to the affidavit that was released a couple of hours, he wanted to take the components, put the bombs in pressure cookers and take them to an unspecified restaurant in killeen where soldiers hang out. >> did we learn anymore about him in court today? >> you know, obviously, any sense of, i think, we learned a lot about the demeanor. clearly, him speaking out, making references to the 14-year-old iraqi girl, making reference to major nadal hassan and just by his demeanor, much taller than i expected. clearly, someone who spoke clearly to the judge in various exchanges that they had in these housekeeping judicial matters that they had to go over. he wanted to portray himself as a confident, perhaps cocky guy. clearly someone who sees himself as defiant, perhaps. that was kind of the demeanor that i took away from watching
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him in court today. >> and what's the next step for him, ed? >> well, he's got another court appearance. he was assigned an attorney here, i think his next court appearance is august 4th as well, he will remain in custody. he is being held without bond. remember, he's also got these child pornography charges that he is facing court marshalled for back in fort campbell, kentucky, so obviously he has a slew of legal problems facing him right now. >> all right, ed there in waco, texas, ed, as always, thank you. deal or no deal? we are done for. so not-so-optimistic talk on the debt ceiling crisis in washington. we'll have it for you next.
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as the battle continues over the debt ceiling, the damage may have already been done to america's reputation. the global markets are nervous about the u.s. economy, and it could have a lasting effect. here's fareed's take on this very volatile situation. >> we have created the circumstances in which the world now doubts our credibility, rating agencies are thinking of downgrading our debt, and the dollar's role as the world's reserve currency could be jeopardized. please understand none of these things is happening because the united states is running deficits. there was no indication of any measure the united states was having difficulty borrowing money one month ago. in fact, the world has been lending money to the united states more cheaply than ever before. we face downgrades and uncertainty and investor panic not because of our deficits, but
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because we are behaving like deadbeats, refusing to pay our bills, pouting while the bill collector waits at the door. we do have a large deficit and large debt, and we do need to get it under control, and the fact the tea party has raised awareness about this issue is admirable, and i agree with their bill that the current set of entitlements, medicare especially, have to be reformed dramatically to get our fiscal house in order. but this is not an excuse to endanger the good standing of the united states. first, you pay the bills, then you figure out how to change your spending habits. the tragedy is the damage may already have been done. for now on, every time the debt ceiling needs to be raised, the world will wonder will the united states stand by its promises or will it break them? something that was taken for granted, the credibility of the united states is now surrounded by uncertainty.
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global markets have always had confidence in america. that confidence has been shaken, perhaps forever, and for this erosion, we have only ourselves to blame. >> and be sure to watch fareed zakaria at 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. about 21 minutes past the hour, checking our top stories. the u.s. men's soccer team has a new coach. the former head coach for germany and led that team to a third place finish in the 2006 world cup. his hiring comes after a day of the firing of critics say resulted in defeats during the 2010 world cup. president obama says the cars we drive need to get better gas mileage. he unveiled new standards for cars and light trucks today to do exactly that, under the proposal overall fuel economy would double to 54.5 miles per gallon.
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the top rebel commander in libya has been killed. relatives and supporters today brought the coffin into the main square of the rebel-held city of benghazi. he was shot yesterday after being called from the battlefield for talks with other rebel leaders. no one has claimed responsibility. in new hampshire, still no sign of a missing 11-year-old girl. she was last seen when she went to bed monday night. police say there's no indication that she ran away or that someone took her. tropical storm don has its sights on texas and could make landfall by tonight, but residents are actually welcoming the storm. we'll tell you why up next. mpars side by side, so you get the same coverage, often for less. wow! that is huge! [ disco playing ] and this is to remind you that you could save hundreds! yeah, that'll certainly stick with me. we'll take it.
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tropical storm don is moving toward texas, and if it hits tonight, as expected, it will be the first tropical system to make landfall in the u.s. this season, and strangely, texans can't wait. chad myers tracking the storm. they are happy about this?
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>> yeah, they need the d, e, f, and g storm in a row to try and break the drought texas has been in the center in. don is northeast there near brownsville, there's corpus christi, the storm is 100 miles away from storm, in fact, no one is concerned. this is a national seashore, one of my favorite places in the u.s., in fact. go to corpus christi, you can get on the seashore, there are signs, this is not the way to south padre island, if you get stuck, it costs about $100 dollars. that's what padre island looks like. that's not south padre island where all the college kids go crazy every spring break. this is a pristine section of beach, there are deer here, it's a lovely place, if you've never been, it's a great place to vacation someday. winds only about 60 even as it
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makes landfall. it will spread rain throughout south texas, a 60 mile per hour storm, making winds in the dunes, but not knocking anything down, not injurying anybody, just making great rainfall for a place that really needs it. a muslim army soldier arrested before he can make his attack made an appearance in court today. but what he did might surprise you. ♪
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unlike fish oil, megared softgels are small and easy to swallow with no fishy smell or aftertaste. try megared today. about half past the hour, here are some of the stories you may have missed, president obama back in front of the cameras today, urging congress to work together to reach a compromise on the debt ceiling. he encouraged americans to keept pressure on washington by contacting their representatives. meanwhile, house republicans could vote on the final passage of the boehner bill between 7:00 and 8:00 tonight. senate democrats promising to vote the boehner plan down. strange behavior when the muslim army soldier appeared in court today. private naser abdo was charged with one possession of a destructive device. abdo was taken into custody yesterday near fort hood, texas.
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police told him he told them he wanted to kill soldiers at the military post. he was yanked up by u.s. marshals. as he was leaving, he shouted out the name of a muslim soldier charged with killing 13 soldiers at fort hood two years ago. prime minister jens stoltenberg told a memorial service in oslo "the shots hit our young people but hurt the whole nation." 77 people died at a nearby island youth camp. nearby, anders breivik was interrogated for the second time today. pilots responded incorrectly when air france 447 stalled and crashed. france's bureau of investigation and analysis says the pilots failed to talk about stall warnings and had received no high altitude training to deal
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with the emergency. air france defended the pilots saying there was "no reason to question the crew's technical skills since they faced multiple, improbable factors." you remember this. according to british reports, the 26-year-old man has been convicted now of assault and causing harassment. jonathan may bowles admitted to throwing the pie. tiger woods is returning to the links. he made the announcement today on his website and twitter account. woods says he will take part in the bridgestone invitational in akron, ohio, next week. this will be woods' first tournament since may. first story, horrified the world, the libyan woman who claimed she was gang raped by gadhafi forces is now in the u.s. the start of her new life and
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details coming up next.
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it was a horrifying story that captured the attention of the world. eman al-obeidy claimed she was gang raped by forces loyal to libyan leader, moammar gadhafi, she arrived in new york two days ago and is now in denver. we met al obeidy in charge. he's been in touch with her since then and joins us now from washington. how did al-obeidy wind up here in the u.s.? >> well, the unhcr and u.s. government were very interested in her case, and they were able
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to help her out ever libya and take her to a facility in romania. since she is higher profile than an average refugee, they took special care of her and expedited her paperwork. she wanted to come to the u.s. and they granted her refugee status in the u.s. >> that explains why she was thanking the united states government and secretary clinton, i guess? >> yes, absolutely. during a trip that i took with the secretary, i was able to inform her about the case about eman specifically, and she was very interested in the case itself, and she seemed to know about it, and once -- once that ball started rolling, it was much easier for eman to make it to the u.s. >> we talk about the day she told journalists her story. how much of a change have you seen in this woman from the moment you were there in that hotel that day to who she is
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now? >> when she came into the hotel, she was extremely fragile, was just able to run away from the people that raped her. she barged into the hotel running and screaming, look what the gadhafi brigades did to me, and she had stayed in constant contact with cnn. she calls me on a regular basis, and she -- every step she tries to make, she stayed in contact with us just to try and keep herself safe. her knowing that somebody knew what her next move was was giving her comfort. she is much more stable now, the unhcr has taken a wonderful job of her, and the u.s. government helped a lot. now once i talked to her in denver, she says she's very happy to be here, very thankful, and said she extend her thanks to everybody who helped her and cared about her and she said she'd one day like to meet the secretary of state. >> we've followed her story for months and in a way have gotten
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to know her family as well. has she been in touch with her family since getting to the u.s., do you know, and any chance they could join her? >> i did not ask her if she was in touch with her family, but the family didn't express interest in coming to the u.s., all they cared about was eman being safe and happy and starting a new life. >> we mention she's in denver now, any idea what her plans are? >> she wants to go to school, learn english, start a new life. she's excited about it, and the organizations taking care of her are offering her residency and they are paying for her rent, they are helping her in her first couple of months, and they are offering her english classes. >> i know you've been in touch with her, give her our best, nice to see her safe and sound on our soil. thanks very much for the latest on her story. appreciate it. hungry, broke, and bills piled high. it's a predicament many find themselves in.
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but when people are hit hard, they have a unique safety net, and he's this week's cnn hero, sal demini, helper of the down and out. >> when i go through suburbia america or the small towns, everybody's trying to hold their head up with pride. you've been looking to work? i know it's tough in a recession. >> i went and sold all my jewelry yesterday. >> these people tell their neighbors they are fine, they'd soon go into their house and starve. >> gas bill i owe about $800. >> i find this situation is getting worse. they need food. they need help with their utilities. i mean, this is 2011 in america, we should be helping each other. my mission is to help my fellow americans who have fallen on hard times. in a week, i'll receive 20 to 30 letters. me and my family are in desperate need of help.
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i want to verify it's genuine and get to them as quickly as possible. i know right now it's tough for everybody. but we'll be here for you, help you out. i tell them how i grew up in poverty and how i understand. here's $100 for gas. i help people with necessities for daily life, and at the same time, i get them together to do a budget so they can continue to survive. i brought this for you so you can go get your wedding band back. i want them to feel free of their pain. >> i'm so happy. >> i want them to feel the compassion that we're trying to share with them, to wrap our arms around them and say come on, i have a little extra strength i want to share with you, let's get you back on your feet. >> sal and his wisconsin non-profit help an average of 500 people a year and, remember, all cnn heros are chosen from people you tell us about. you still have time to nominate someone you know who's making a big difference in your community. go to cnnheros.com.
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sales tax, gas tax, property tax, i could go on and on and on. you'll be surprised how much of your income is going not to you, but to your state. we break down the math and it isn't pretty. >> so, ah, your seat good? got the mirrors all adjusted? you can see everything ok? just stay off the freeways, all right? i don't want you going out on those yet. and leave your phone in your purse, i don't want you texting. >> daddy... ok! ok, here you go. be careful. >> thanks dad. >> and call me--but not while you're driving. we knew this day was coming. that's why we bought a subaru.
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with congress still battling
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it out over the debt ceiling and the nation's credit rating at risk, money is on a lot of our minds. many of you have looked at your paycheck and wondered where your money went. taxes, there's federal, but we want to hone in on state and local taxes, which varies pretty widely depending where you live. a report identifies your tax burden within your state. so, take a look, i want to show you the top five states where people pay the most taxes. coming in at number five is rhode island. it may be one of the smallest states, but people who live there actually carry a lot of the tax burden, 10.7% of their income goes towards state and local taxes. a lot of that is in sin taxes, the average rhode islander pays on alcohol, tobacco, and gaming. all right, now here's a surprise
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maybe for you. take a look at wisconsin. wisconsin relies more on income and property taxes for its revenue than most states actually actually, 11% because wisconsin receives a smaller portion of federal money than others. connecticut, for instance, connecticut, which has the highest income per capita in the country collects on average more than $5,000 per resident. part of that is the taxes connecticut residents pay to new york to commute to work, which counts as connecticut's tax burden, of course. believe me, it's even worse in the state of new york. take a look here. new york places a lot of its tax burdens on residents from other states, think tourism and commuters, still, new yorkers have to shoulder the second highest tax burden in the country, but the highest tax burden is paid by residents living in -- here we go, ready? new jersey. that's where i grew up.
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residents in the garden state shell out a whopping 12.2% of their income. a lot of burden comes from new jersey residents that commute to the big apple and pay taxes there as well, making new jersey the number one state where people pay the most in taxes. good 'ol new jersey. do you know where your children are? you better find out soon or you could face a fine or even worse.
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child cur few laws. odds are, your city has one. minors are required to be at
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home between 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. according to the encyclopedia of americana, the first was around 1880 to keep youths absent from steam boat landings, railroad stations, and low variety shows. today, supporters say the laws reduce crime and protect children. critics believe they are unconstitutional and only give a false sense of security. joining me now to debate this, cnn political analyst, roland martin. mike shields, and dr. steven salsman with us. he's on the phone with us. mike, let me start with you, a new curfew for chicago children states minors age 12 and younger need to be in their homes by 8:30 p.m. on the weekdays. will this, or any curfew, really
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keep kids safe? >> well, i think that any law directed at keeping children inside the house is a good start, but unfortunately, we're living in a chicago that without having more policemen to be able to enforce it, it will be a difficult challenge to accomplish this mission. >> roland, what do you think, you live in chicago? >> lived in chicago for six years, and i can tell you, i covered any number of funerals of children killed in that city. it's one of the deterrents. i certainly believe parents must be held accountable to knowing where their children are, but i suggest to chicago, utilize those parents who've lost their kids in psas, in billboards, on television, to say why this is needed. >> steve, you're a trauma surgeon and a police officer, do you think this is a good idea? how necessary is it to keep kids off the streets based on your line of work?
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>> in the end, will it curtail the actual violence happening, i don't honestly believe that, but what it will possibly do is take these young kids who are many times the victims of violence as sort of this collateral damage of this war being waged on the streets and take them out of harm's way. basically, when we see violent crime, the majority of the shootings and violent crime that happen between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 4:00 a.m. if we can get these younger children off the street earlier in the evening when we have these violent crimes being committed, i would think that the hope is that we would take these children out of the line of fire and potentially save lives. in and of itself, i think that would be huge, because anybody who does my line of work, certainly in chicago, we see countless numbers of children the victims of violence. >> roland, do you think this is constitutional? >> look, if someone says is it
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constitutional, i think it is. i'll say this here, for every parent who's had to bury a 9-year-old, 10-year-old, 11-year-old, i'm sure the last thing they thought about is what the critics think. at the end of the day, you have to figure out how to control a situation. as the doctor just said, collateral damage. when you have kids being shot inside their homes, with bullets fired from the outside, that's also an issue. this also helps police, because when you have those kids out there, frankly, they shouldn't be on the streets. they need to see these crazy characters, especially the gang members who are are causing a lot of this violence. >> mike, would you like to respond to that? roland says this will help police. >> i think so too, it's a good start, but if there's not enough police to police the streets, it's going to be a challenge to do this. city council ordinances in response to a 9-year-old shot at 3:00 in the morning who stepped
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outside his house after staying up until 3:00 in the morning playing video games what, planet do we live on when a 3-year-old is up with his father until 3:00 in the morning? >> first of all, mike, this was a 9-year-old playing a video game in the house with the father. you're right, i don't know why you're stepping out at 3:00 a.m., but if it's summertime, you're going to get up late with your kid, so be it. >> 9-year-old child at 3:00 in the morning? >> i stayed up until 5:00, 6:00 in the morning watching movies. >> with a 9-year-old? >> no, when i was 9. that's what kids do. we stay up. >> dr. salzman, back to you quickly, some critics say it isn't worth the police overtime. how is this really going to be enforced, but you still say yes, it is absolutely worth it based to what you see in the hospital and on the streets there. is that true? >> yeah, again, i have an
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interesting perspective seeing things from both sides of the coin. again, all you need to see is one child that's innocent and that's the victim of a violent crime, and, you know, to watch one time, to deliver that news to the mother and father, your son or your daughter is being killed, they've done nothing wrong, not members of a gang, not doing anything wrong, they were basically victims of circumstance, at the wrong place at the wrong time. a lot of it stems on you have to be out of the box in terms of our thinking. also something called cease fire, a organization trying to prevent retaliation, but it's got to be fumulti-factorial, an it's every little bit helps because if we could save one child's life, you cannot imagine how much devastation follows, not just the child's life but the families and other loved ones. this is war, and truly needs to
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be approached like that, so every little bit helps. 1 this the end all be all, absolutely not. i think everybody on the panel will agree that's not the answer, but save one life and one life at a time, that's a start. >> all right, dr., mike shields, roland martin, thank you very much. very, very important discussion to be having. senior political editor mark preston joins us live from the political desk in washington. hi, mark, what's crossing the ticker on this friday afternoon? >> randi, tradition holds it's us that hold the presidential debates and forums, we act as a filter for candidates running for the white house, but the latest is tim scott, he's a south carolina congressman, he is going to be holding a series of town halls down in his district. in fact, the first one's going to be august 7th with jon huntsman. a little later in the month,
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august 25th, michele bachmann will appear. he says he's going to have all the questions come from the audience, they'll pick them out, whatever the question is, he will ask the candidate. this is pretty interesting, because on labor day, we'll see senator jim demint, south carolina senator, he's holding a similar type of forum. in the past it's been the media, been us, we've done a good job of it, but now the lawmakers want to get involved as well. >> i'm sure they do. mark, i want to ask you to stick around. this is rare. no real news value to this story, but this video has gone viral and we have to share this video of two dogs, one starts with a fight with his friend, then you see that? he gets bitten, then boom, this dog actually plays dead, then he gets up, does it again. you've got to watch this carefully. scuffle, bitten on the neck, boom, goes down, plays dead. then looks, is he still here? raises his head.
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